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Secretary
of State for Defence, Geoff Hoon:
Good Morning Ladies and Gentlemen. I want first of
all to say something about the appalling television pictures
which the Iraqi regime have released to the media of what
is claimed to be dead from the United Kingdom. This is
a flagrant and sickening breach of the Geneva Convention.
Sadly this is typical behaviour of Saddam Hussein and
his regime. We have yet to be able to undertake a formal
identification, but I do regret to say that we do believe
that the pictures are of two of our Servicemen who up
to now have been listed as being missing. Next of kin
have now been informed. On behalf of the government I
offer my condolences to the families and friends of these
two Servicemen who died in the service of their country.
With
each new conflict, media reporting benefits from the latest
technological developments. Over the past week I have
been struck not only by the speed of communication from
theatre to our television screens, but by the concentration
on frontline activity and specific incidents. That is
why at events like these I believe it is useful to set
out the wider context. There is quite properly great interest
in what is happening at the frontline, but this can mean
that many of the specialist tasks in which our Servicemen
and Servicewomen are engaged are ignored, in favour of
the apparently most dramatic events. Admiral Boyce will
speak in a moment about the work of these members of the
Armed Forces who do not take part directly in combat operations,
but who provide vital support.
But
the focus on individual incidents also detracts from an
understanding of the bigger picture. That is why in recent
Parliamentary statements I have been speaking about the
obvious progress which the coalition has made in the context
of the military campaign objectives which we published
as a government at the start of the conflict.
Coalition
forces are making good progress in overcoming the resistance
of the Iraqi security forces with great courage and great
resilience. The contrast between the tactics of the coalition
and those directed by the Iraqi regime could not be greater
- the coalition, whose Armed Forces are made up of men
and women who made a free choice to serve their country;
the Iraqi regime, whose security forces are motivated
either by fear or by hatred (briefing
slide).
Whereas
the coalition makes strenuous efforts to employ the minimum
use of force, the Iraqi regime places no such limits on
its security forces. Contrast the coalition's careful
targeting and the use of precision guided missiles designed
to minimise the risk of civilian casualties with the indiscriminate
military action which is the hallmark of the Iraqi regime.
There have been reports for example of some of the regime's
irregular forces deliberately targeting civilians in their
own towns and cities.
Likewise
whilst the coalition acts in accordance with the Geneva
Convention, the Iraqi regime parades coalition prisoners
of war on Iraqi state television, in direct violation
of Iraq's obligations under the Convention.
Our
most important task within the campaign objectives is
to deny Iraq use of its weapons of mass destruction. Coalition
efforts have centred on disabling command and control
facilities, through which the Iraqi regime would order
the use of such weapons. In contrast, we do have evidence
that the Iraqi regime is prepared to use weapons of mass
destruction. We already know from Iraqi prisoners of war
that protective equipment was issued to southern Iraqi
divisions. British forces have made significant discoveries
in recent days which show categorically that Iraqi troops
are prepared for the use of such horrific weapons. Admiral
Boyce will expand on these finds in a few moments, but
I want to make it clear that any Iraqi Commander who sanctions
the use of weapons of mass destruction, which is a war
crime, will be held personally responsible for his action.
Ultimately
it will be the removal of Saddam Hussein's regime that
will guarantee disarmament, and so this is a key objective
of the military campaign. To achieve this we have been
seeking to isolate the regime at all levels in every part
of Iraq, primarily by the use of precision attacks.
I
do want to deal with allegations about the explosions
at the Baghdad market place. We have all seen reports
of 15 fatalities. The coalition has made clear that we
did not target the market place, and subsequently the
United States has said that there was no conclusive evidence
that the coalition was responsible. Although investigations
continue into this tragic incident, it could clearly have
been caused by fall-out from the regime's anti-aircraft
fire, or indeed from the failure of one of Iraq's own
missiles.
In
stark contrast, Saddam Hussein has regularly claimed we
have killed civilians, or destroyed civilian infrastructure
in the past, only for those claims to be shown to be entirely
false. For example a few weeks ago Saddam Hussein claimed
six civilians were killed and 15 were injured on an alleged
coalition raid on Basrah. There were in fact no civilian
casualties resulting from our actions in the No Fly Zones
at that time.
The
coalition recognises its responsibilities to the Iraqi
people. During and immediately after conflict, our responsibilities
will include the provision of humanitarian assistance,
organising basic services and establishing a secure and
safe environment inside Iraq. Compare that to the regime,
which has allowed a grave humanitarian crisis to develop
over many years. Saddam Hussein's rule has been disastrous
for the people of Iraq, with 60% of the population dependent
on the United Nations' oil for food programme, and more
than half the population in rural areas without access
to safe drinking water. We have always known that we would
face humanitarian difficulties when conducting operations
in Iraq, and we have certainly planned and prepared for
this. Saddam Hussein's disregard for the Iraqi people's
economic wellbeing was shown in his intention to undertake
a scorched earth policy, setting light to the oilwells
which embody the economic future of Iraq and its people.
This has been prevented through the prompt action of coalition
forces.
This
campaign is only in its eighth day. We all wish to see
a speedy end to conflict. The campaign is going to plan.
We are, with our coalition partners, involved in a deliberate
and cautious endeavour. We will not stop until Saddam
Hussein and his appalling regime has fallen from power
and weapons of mass destruction dismantled. But we have
time to see this through. Saddam Hussein's time is running
out.
Chief
of the Defence Staff, Admiral Sir Michael Boyce
Ladies and Gentlemen, before I give you some detail of
some of the elements of our ongoing campaign, I would
first of all like to echo the words of the Secretary of
State and send my personal condolences on behalf of the
Armed Forces to the families of personnel who have lost
their lives in recent engagements.
You
will have heard earlier on this morning, if you have been
watching it, some of the details of the unfolding campaign
by Air Marshal Brian Burridge who is our National Contingent
Component Commander out in Qatar, and I don't intend to
cover all the ground that he did then. But I would say
at the moment that the military plan and the coalition
campaign is being conducted well within expected parameters.
The
poor weather that they have been experiencing out there
in Iraq over the last couple of days, the reduced visibility,
now has been clearing. But the slowdown that it caused
has allowed our combat power close to Baghdad and Basrah,
that is to say the armour, the infantry and the vital
sustained logistics, it has allowed them some sphere of
consolidation and recuperation.
The
air campaign is continuing apace with the Royal Air Force
flying around 100 sorties a day, and they have successfully
attacked and destroyed targets, ranging from regime headquarters
to Iraqi forces in the field, and they have knocked out
numerous tanks. And in addition, our helicopters have
also been supporting our forces throughout the United
Kingdom area of operations.
I
thought what I would like to do now is just to give you
a little more detail on one or two of the operations we
have been involved in, to give you an example of how extremely
well our people are performing right across the board.
Let me start with one example. A couple of days ago in
the early hours of the morning, Iraqi forces, including
tanks and personnel, moved south-east from Basrah towards
3 Commando Brigade on the Al Faw Peninsula. Now 3 Commando
Brigade is not fitted with tanks of its own, but the brigade
co-ordinated and deployed a combination of Milan anti-tank
missiles and hand-held anti-tank weapons to engage the
enemy forces, and they managed to stop a number of the
tanks. But it soon became apparent that the threat was
more significant than at first thought, and so they requested
assistance from coalition aircraft which provided close
air support to our forces on the ground. And with the
fire power from this support, combined with that of armed
helicopters and artillery, the enemy tanks were halted,
and in fact the 3 Commando Brigade have now confirmed
that a total of 19 enemy T55 tanks were destroyed.
Another
small example of some action going on, because at about
the same time as this was happening, to the north of 3
Commando Brigade in Al Zubayr, there had been a number
of attacks going on against our forces, and 7th Armoured
Brigade identified a compound in the south of the town,
and this contained a number of buildings, including a
Baath Party headquarters which they were able to destroy
in concert with Air Forces. They have now sealed the town
and are keeping up the pressure on it.
And
most recently I can tell you that earlier on this morning
a squadron of 14 Challenger II Tanks of the Royal Scots
Dragoon Guards were heading south towards the Al Faw Peninsula
to go and reinforce 3 Commando Brigade, and they came
across 14 Iraqi T55 tanks. The Scots Dragoon Guard squadron
engaged the Iraqi tanks whilst on the move and destroyed
all 14, and none of our Challengers was damaged, and our
Guards then pressed on and overran two associated Iraqi
infantry positions.
More
generally we are consolidating our position around Basrah,
and also in the Ramaila oil ields, and we now have got
civilian contractors at work under our protection to restore
the oilfields to normal working, and three of the nine
oil fires have now been extinguished, somewhat quicker
than certainly I expected. That is really good news.
On
another aspect of how we are doing our business, we are
working hard to gain the confidence of the local people.
Of course we have got lots of experience in this sort
of field of winning the trust of local populations and
giving them back confidence to return to some sort of
sense of normality, and our efforts here at the moment
are focused on Umm Qasr and Ramalah town.
Meanwhile,
as we work the area, we are finding out about some other
things as well. The use of chemical and biological weapons
against our forces has always been one of our chief concerns,
we certainly know that Saddam Hussein possesses such a
capability and that his army is not shy of using them.
We certainly remember the terrible results of their use
in the past, and making sure that the regime does not
get the opportunity to deploy these weapons has been a
high priority in our planning and target selection over
the last few days. What has not been clear to us is just
how ready to use the WMD the regime has been. However,
as the Secretary of State has indicated, our forces have
made some significant discoveries in the past few days.
A
short bit of film that I would like to show you now shows
soldiers of the Royal Irish Regiment, currently in
the Ramaila oilfields, searching a recently deserted Iraqi
command position. The soldiers who fled this post left
in a hurry, and they left not only their equipment but
also paperwork and other equipment which is now being
examined by our intelligence staffs. There were numerous
chemical weapons protection suits and respirators left
behind, and this kit was effective, well cared for and
in good working order. Now we have to ask ourselves why
Iraqi commanders felt that infantry in this part of Iraq
should be issued with weapons of mass destruction equipment
and protection. For various reasons of security, I can't
tell you exactly where this find was made, other than
that it was within the oilfields. But I can tell you that
we estimate that there were upwards of some 100 suits
across the site, along with other related equipment, and
as I say we will be analysing all this very carefully
over the coming days.
But
it is not just the use of weapons of mass destruction
which marks out this regime. On the battlefield, our forces
have already been engaged in trying to clean up and make
safe parts of the country we control, not just for our
forces but more importantly for the innocent Iraqis who
actually live there. A particular hazard we are coming
across are anti-personnel mines which we are finding scattered
across the whole battle space. We have teams
of our explosive ordnance disposal experts setting
about the long task of clearing these things, and we are
also finding larger anti-tank mines laid in patterns alongside
the civilian road, and I have an example here. Obviously
a painstaking task and quite a dangerous one as well,
and when they are found by poking your device into the
ground with a long stick, the mine is then counter-detonated
and you can imagine what that explosion would do to any
vehicle.
We
are also coming across booby traps as we clear the area,
and of course these take a huge amount of time and effort
to make safe. And here you can see British
Army sappers clearing a pile of abandoned weapons.
What we can't show you are the methods used for checking
for wires under the sand which are attached to the grenades
we are finding, but you can see here how every single
weapon in the pile that has been looked at by these soldiers,
has been painstakingly x-rayed to check for internal booby
traps. And of course the sort of things we are looking
for are designed to explode in the hands of the man making
the weapons safe by operating the moving parts.
Another
immediate task facing us, as I mentioned before, is to
get humanitarian aid into the country fast, and here we
are concentrating largely on the port of Umm Qasr. The
Royal Navy has been working non-stop to clear
the waterways into the port, and indeed they have
now cleared an area some 40 miles long, 2 miles wide,
and they have blown up 100 items, and indeed just last
night we found 2 more mines which we are in the process
of disposing of.
We
go about our business here using underwater vehicles,
launched from a Royal Navy minehunter, and we have done
that off the al-Faw Peninsular, and this particular vehicle
has been used extensively. In difficult working conditions
near the seabed, it is used to identify suspicious objects,
often with the use of divers both day and night, in zero
visibility, and this is dangerous work indeed for the
divers. When the officer in charge is satisfied that the
possible mine target has been identified, the submersible
drops a demolition charge which destroys the object.
All
this work that we are doing here revolves around our desire
to start the aid operation as soon as we can. We had hoped
to bring the Royal Fleet Auxiliary Sir Galahad
into Umm Qasr and unload a significant quantity of humanitarian
aid in about an hour from now, but obviously this most
recent find of mines has delayed us, we have missed the
tide and we probably now can't get Sir Galahad
in until tomorrow. And Sir Galahad will be followed
by two Australian vessels who are loaded with grain, and
water and fuel tankers have also been hired in Kuwait
and they are all just simply the vanguard of a massive
humanitarian operation.
Meanwhile
also, again as I mentioned before, we are building a three
kilometre water pipeline from Kuwait into southern Iraq
which will give us about one million litres of water a
day, and our engineers have been restoring the water treatment
plant in Umm Qasr which is going to give us three million
litres of water a day when that is finished very shortly
in about a day and a half's time. And our engineers are
also making preparations for restoring electrical power
and sanitation.
So
you can see that we are busy. And of course I must not,
in talking about these activities right up in the frontline,
I must not overlook the vital role which so many of our
other support personnel have been playing in the operation,
from the suppliers in the depots, to the movers at the
sea ports and the airports, from the clerks on our supply
tracking systems, to the truck drivers who deliver the
kit to the front, to those who are caring for the welfare
needs of our people, such as mail delivery for example
moved so quickly by our postal and courier staff, to the
phone and e-mail links installed in
areas, everyone
is going flat out, and everyone is contributing equally
importantly to our overall plan.
Question:
How conclusive did you think the finding of the suits
was that Saddam planned to use biological or chemical
weapons, were there any delivery systems found alongside
them? And perhaps a linked question, there are reports
this morning that the Americans may plan to use in urban
warfare non-lethal chemical weapons, what would you say
about that?
Mr
Hoon:
It is obviously not conclusive but it is clearly indicative
of an intention, otherwise why equip his own forces to
deal with a threat which he knows we do not have. So it
must only be to protect his forces from his own use of
those weapons which we know he has.
Admiral
Boyce:
As I said, we found some documentation and that may well
prove what the Secretary of State has just said.
Mr
Hoon:
On your second question, as you are aware non-lethal chemical
weapons are permitted for dealing with riot control, the
United Kingdom is fully signed up to the Chemical Weapons
Convention and they would not be used by the United Kingdom
in any military operations or on any battlefield.
Question:
Can I ask two questions, one about Basrah? Air Marshal
Burridge talked this morning about the motivation and
what might be going on behind some of the Iraqis that
came out, he suggested that some of these vehicle crews
were being forced out at gunpoint, whether they themselves
were having guns brandished at them or their families
were. Do we have any evidence of that. What on earth were
those tanks doing sitting out in the open against superior
forces? And finally, you talked about the operational
pause which had been afforded us by the sand storm, how
are you managing to give down time to tank and forward
units that are obviously working at a very high battle
tempo?
Mr
Hoon:
The situation in Basrah, as Air Marshal Burridge indicated,
remains very confused. We had some indications that evening
of some firing by Saddam Hussein's security forces using
mortars against Iraqi people. We are not sure what was
going on. We certainly know that there was an attack by
those security forces against Iraqis in the city, and
that is why we responded, as we will continue to do to
assist them by bombing the Baath Party headquarters, and
that certainly seems to have led to some reduction in
the level of activity by regime security forces. I can
only speculate about the tanks, and I have to tell you
that when I saw teletext after my briefing yesterday evening
to discover that there was a column of 120 tanks, it was
suggested, advancing out of Basrah, I was somewhat concerned.
This hadn't been mentioned in my briefing. It turned out
to be three tanks advancing out of Basrah, and clearly
those tanks were dealt with. It may be that they were
testing out our determination to deal with them, but I
assure you they were destroyed.
Admiral
Boyce:
And we are very happy, if they continue to come out into
the open like that, we will deal with them when they do,
unless they want to come out and surrender. As to your
question about rest and recuperation, absolutely right,
any battle commander must be concerned about making sure
his people are properly rested, and after the extremely
high speed really effectively that the V Corps made their
way up to where they are at the moment, Karbala, that
must have been very, very demanding on the people concerned
because they were encountering resistance on the way.
And as I say, the weather which closed us out for a couple
of days to a large extent must have come with the view
of a sigh of relief by the commanders who took the opportunity
to rest their people up a bit before the next engagement.
Question:
There is a lot of talk this morning that the Americans
are reinforcing themselves, but they want reinforcements
from us as well. Could you clarify that?
Mr
Hoon:
We are absolutely confident that we have sufficient forces
in theatre to deliver the military objectives that we
set out. Clearly there will be from time to time routine
replacements, particularly of individuals or small units
who have been engaged in very intense activity, certainly
those for example who have been responsible for getting
our forces into theatre. Equally the Americans have a
substantial force available that will begin to arrive
in theatre in due course, those forces are part of the
original package which the United States designated as
being available for operations in and around Iraq
Admiral
Boyce:
I do think it is also important to remember that we are
part of a coalition, it is not the US and the UK, this
is a mixed force. We have something of a third of the
combat armoured power of that coalition force at the moment
and the commander must make best use of his forces to
whatever particular immediate operational and tactical
needs he has. So we don't feel that we are particularly
confined to a particular area on our own, we will be mixing
in with the American forces in the same way that we do
for example with our Air Force and indeed with our Naval
forces.
Question:
You mentioned the three tanks that left Basrah yesterday.
Original reports from military sources did speak of an
armoured column of between 70 - 120 vehicles, there have
been other examples, I think a column that was reported
leaving Baghdad which turned out to be much smaller, also
from military sources. Are you worried about the apparent
confusion on the battlefield, or are you not worried because
you are receiving superior and different information?
Admiral
Boyce:
I have been reminded when looking at that question myself
this morning, having been woken up a number of times a
night about this column coming out, by General John Reith,
who is our Chief of Joint Operations, saying that back
in 1991 when he was out in Desert Storm the same sort
of thing happened then, and of course that night, when
you do have the passage of traffic coming out of cities,
a wise commander will assume the worst to start off with,
get ready to deal with it, while he evaluates, analyses
and classifies what he is actually seeing. And of course
with our good friends from the media embedded with us,
they will hear those deliberations going on, could this
be such and such - a proper question to ask - well they
usually jump on that and turn it into this is what is
actually happening and suddenly we have the sort of news
we had last night. So these are questions which rightly
must be asked by the Commander when large volumes of traffic
are detected, it does take time to classify it properly
at night time to see whether it is a threat or not.
Question:
You mentioned this is day eight. What turning point in
the war so far, or in the next week perhaps, would give
you the sort of confidence that the coalition can take
Baghdad in due course, and do you have any sort of feeling,
as some Americans seem to be saying today, that this war
could go on for several months rather than weeks?
Mr
Hoon:
I have never suggested that you should believe some of
the commentators who talked about a short campaign. I
said in my very first statement to the House of Commons
that this would not be a short campaign, that we would
be engaged in military operations to prevent Saddam Hussein
using weapons of mass destruction, and obviously to deal
with the regime that harbours them, and that continues.
I think the successes that have been achieved so far I
have already set out, securing the southern area of Iraq
very largely, ensuring that those command and communication
decisions cannot reach other parts of Iraq, and clearly
the most remarkable advance northwards by the coalition
forces, all of which gives me every confidence in being
able to say that we will be able to achieve those other
campaign aims in due course.
Question:
You began your briefing today by condemning the Iraqi
regime for breaching the Geneva Convention. Haven't you
just decided bombing of television stations in Baghdad
and Basrah which also breaches the Geneva Convention?
Mr
Hoon:
What we have been consistently doing is disrupting the
military command and control facilities in Iraq, I set
that out as part of our basic campaign aims and that continues
to be the case. If military command and control is not
disrupted, clearly the regime has a military advantage,
and that is the purpose of the targeting and that will
continue to be how we deal with those particular targets.
Question:
Inaudible.
Mr
Hoon:
The difficulty in dealing with Saddam Hussein's regime,
that we have known over very many years that he is utterly
callous in his disregard for the welfare of his own people,
the point I have been making to you this morning, and
we know full well of many occasions on which he co-locates
civilian and military activity. If we are to deal with
the military aspect then we have to target very carefully,
I assure you that that is done.
Question:
Does the parachuting into the Kurdish controlled part
of Iraq of US airborne troops, does that represent the
opening up of a northern front. What other equipment might
joint them, could it for example include tanks, and what
would you hope that any such northern front would achieve?
Mr
Hoon:
It is obviously important, and we have always designed
the campaign to achieve this, that the regime has to deal
with a number of different threats to its existence from
a number of different directions, and a northern front
will assist in demonstrating to Saddam Hussein, as I said
at the outset, that his days are numbered, and Mike may
wish to comment more fully on that.
Admiral
Boyce:
The force out there will be building, they will be important
to fix the Iraqis eyes to the north, as well as they will
be fixed to the east, and the south, and the west. So
as the Secretary of State says, it shows an envelopment
of the country which will hopefully persuade Saddam Hussein
that he is not going to win.
Question:
Can I return to the discovery of the respirators and the
chemicals weapons kit. Is there any evidence at all that
there was any offensive desire here at all, or could this
as easily be the routine issue of material to an army
for defensive purposes, much as we do to our Armed Forces,
particularly to an army that has in the past of course
faced chemical weapons attacks from Iran?
Admiral
Boyce:
There is no evidence so far in what we found there, they
ought to be defensive for protection suits and respirators
and so forth, but as I said, we found other bits of equipment
and documentation which we are still analysing and that
may point us in other directions. But so far we didn't
find anything there which was offensive, no.
Question:
According to your information, how successful has Saddam
Hussein been in remaining in touch with his forces to
direct them, and if so, what communication is he using?
Mr
Hoon:
Inevitably modern technology allows a range of different
forms of communication, and although we have been very
successful in removing that communication from time to
time, clearly there are other means whereby contact can
be maintained, simple means of telephone communication
is still available and a great deal of effort is being
made to address the ways in which the regime communicates,
particularly to its outlying areas.
Question:
There were reports a couple of days ago that CS gas may
have been used, I think it might have been in connection
with the taking of the Baath Party headquarters outside
Basrah. Could you confirm whether or not CS gas has been
used, and secondly does this come under the Chemical Weapons
Treaty?
Mr
Hoon:
Can I make clear that the attack on the Baath Party headquarters
in Basrah was done from the air and was not done in that
way that would require forces to be on the ground and
in close proximity. I made clear that the United Kingdom
is fully signed up to the Chemical Weapons Convention
and that would seem to me to preclude the use of chemicals
in those circumstances.
Question:
CS gas is precluded?
Mr
Hoon:
That would be my understanding, yes.
Question:
The launching of missiles today at Kuwait, would this
mean that his capability in the southern part of Iraq
was still intact, or he is launching it from further afield?
Mr
Hoon:
I don't believe that his capability is intact, we very
seriously degraded that capability and his ability to
launch missiles. But we have always been aware that this
regime hid away its missiles, not least in civilian areas,
and from time to time they will emerge. We have dealt
with them by and large when that has happened, but obviously
on occasions they will get lucky and we will have to go
on in our determined effort to deal with those threats
as and when we see them.
Question:
was this weapons of mass destruction?
Mr
Hoon:
This doesn't confirm it, but it heightens our concern,
certainly.
Question:
Could you give us some assessment of what is happening
in western Iraq, which is something of a media black hole,
I don't think anybody is embedded out there. Since the
taking of the airfields over the weekend, can you tell
us anything more about progress there?
Admiral
Boyce:
There are some forces, but it is a black hole, it is a
very empty part of Iraq, it is mostly sand and obviously
we will be keeping an eye on what is actually going on
there, but clearly there is no major effort there.
Question:
Could you just clarify what is going on around Basrah
and Al Faw, because you were talking about how there were
reports of 70 - 120 tanks and armoured personnel carriers
coming out of Basra, and it turned out to be 3, and then
you were telling us about how the Royal Tank Regiment
attacked and destroyed 14. Just how many do you believe
are roaming around there?
Mr
Hoon:
That was a previous incident, remember.
Admiral
Boyce:
What was being reported last night, the 70 - 120, was
what was going on last night, the incident I described
about what went on this morning is completely separate
from what was actually happening last night.
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