20 November 2003
U.S., Britain Share Determination to Defeat Terrorism
Bush, Blair hold joint news conference in London
Deploring the November 15 and November 20 terrorist bombings in
Istanbul, President Bush told reporters in London November 20 that "Great
Britain, America and other free nations are united today in our
grief, and united in our determination to fight and defeat this
evil, wherever it is found."
Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair, speaking at a joint
news conference, expressed their sympathy for the loss of life
in Turkey and emphasized their determination to continue the fight
"The nature of the terrorist enemy is evident once again, Bush
said. "We see their contempt -- their utter contempt -- for innocent
life. ... They particularly want to intimidate and demoralize free
nations," but "[t]hey're not going to succeed."
"[O]ur job is to secure our homelands and chase down these killers
and bring them to justice," he said. "We're on an international
manhunt. ... That's why relations and cooperation between our intelligence
services are essential. ... And the more we share intelligence
with other nations, the more likely it is that we'll be able to
rout out these terrorists."
"Our shared work of democracy in Afghanistan and Iraq is essential
to the defeat of global terrorism," Bush said, adding that the "spread
of freedom and the hope it brings is the surest way in the long-term
to combat despair and anger and resentment that feeds terror."
Asked about the timing for transfer of sovereignty to the Iraqi
Governing Council, Bush said "we believe that the timetable that
the Governing Council has set for itself is an accurate timetable."
Responding to questions about possible troop reductions in Iraq
over the coming year, Bush said "[w]e could have less troops in
Iraq, we could have the same number of troops in Iraq, we could
have more troops in Iraq." The level, he said, will be based on
need, and whatever is necessary will be done to secure Iraq. U.S.
troop reductions will depend on "how fast the new brigades of Iraqi
army are stood up, how effective they are," he said.
Bush and Blair also fielded questions regarding the status of
British nationals being held by the United States at Guantanamo
Bay, U.S. trade quotas on Chinese textile imports, and the World
Trade Organization's ruling on steps taken by the administration
to protect the U.S. steel industry.
Following is the transcript of the press conference:
THE WHITE HOUSE
Office of the Press Secretary
November 20, 2003
JOINT PRESS CONFERENCE WITH PRESIDENT BUSH AND PRIME MINISTER
Foreign and Commonwealth Offices
PRIME MINISTER BLAIR: Good afternoon, everyone. First of all,
can I extend the warmest possible welcome to the President of the
United States and to the First Lady to Downing Street and say how
delighted I am to see them both here.
And, as you would expect, I think, I would like to say some words
about the latest terrorist outrage that has occurred today in Turkey.
First of all, I would wish to express my deepest sympathy and condolences
to the families of the victims. Some will be British, many will
be Turkish citizens. I would like to express my condolences also
to the government and to the people of Turkey.
Once again we're reminded of the evil these terrorists pose to
innocent people everywhere and to our way of life. Once again we
must affirm that in the face of this terrorism there must be no
holding back, no compromise, no hesitation in confronting this
menace, in attacking it, wherever and whenever we can, and in defeating
It should not lessen, incidentally, in any way at all our commitment
to Iraq. On the contrary; it shows how important it is to carry
on until terrorism is defeated there, as well. Because it is in
a free, democratic and stable Iraq that not just the violence,
but the wretched and backward philosophy of these terrorists will
be defeated and destroyed.
Yesterday, as some of you will have heard, the President of the
United States delivered a powerful, telling speech extolling the
virtues of freedom, justice, democracy, and the rule of law, not
just for some people, but for all the peoples of our world. Today,
the fanatics of terror showed themselves to be callous, brutal
murderers of the innocent, and the contrast could not be more stark.
There may be some who think that Britain would gain from standing
back from this struggle; even some who believe that we and the
United States and our allies have somehow brought this upon ourselves.
Let us be very clear: America did not attack al Qaeda on September
the 11th; Al Qaeda attacked America, and in doing so, attacked
not just America, but the way of life of all people who believe
in tolerance and freedom, justice and peace.
Say we issue for you in the light of this latest outrage a short
summary on the casualties and cost of terrorism. It's quite interesting
to see just how many countries have been affected, what the cost
of terrorism is, how many thousands of people have died over this
past period of time -- many of the victims, incidentally, Muslim
people, not least the civilians murdered in Iraq.
So this is a time to show strength, determination, and complete
resolve. This terrorism is the 21st century threat. It is a war
that strikes at the heart of all that we hold dear, and there is
only one response that is possible or rational: To meet their will,
to inflict terror, with a greater will to defeat it; to confront
their philosophy of hate with our own of tolerance and freedom;
and to challenge their desire to frighten us, divide us, unnerve
us, with an unshakable unity of purpose; to stand side-by-side
with the United States of America and with our other allies in
the world to rid our world of this evil once and for all.
In the course of the discussions that President Bush and myself
had yesterday and today, we also, of course, discussed many other
issues, and let me just run through a few of those with you. There
will be two communiqués put out afterwards, one on Iraq, one on
the other issues we discussed, and I can just simply list them
Obviously, we discussed the situation in relation to the WTO and
world trade, and the issues to do with steel, with which we're
familiar. We agreed [to] a special joint task force on the issue
of HIV/AIDS in relation to global health, a preoccupation of both
our governments. We, of course, discussed the issues to do with
weapons of mass destruction and the threat that it poses; the Middle
East and the Middle East peace process. And since we have the successive
G8 chairmanships in the next couple of years, we also discussed
how we might use those to make progress on all these issues, including
some of the challenging and difficult issues to do with climate
change, world trade and poverty.
So, once again, Mr. President, welcome here. It's a very, very
great pleasure and honor to have you here in our country and we're
delighted to see you. Thank you for that magnificent speech yesterday.
And it's my pleasure to ask you to address this simple gathering.
PRESIDENT BUSH: Thank you, Mr. Prime Minister. It's my honor to
be standing by the side of a friend. And Laura and I were so honored
to be invited by Her Majesty the Queen to come to the United Kingdom
for this state visit. It's been a fantastic experience for us.
I also want to express my deep sympathy for the loss of life in
Turkey. The nature of the terrorist enemy is evident once again.
We see their contempt -- their utter contempt -- for innocent life.
They hate freedom. They hate free nations. Today, once again, we
saw their ambitions of murder. The cruelty is part of their strategy.
The terrorists hope to intimidate; they hope to demoralize. They
particularly want to intimidate and demoralize free nations. They're
not going to succeed.
Great Britain, America and other free nations are united today
in our grief, and united in our determination to fight and defeat
this evil, wherever it is found.
Britain and America have shared the suffering caused by terrorism
before. On September the 11th, 2001, no country except America
lost more lives than Britain. Since that day, no ally has accomplished
more or sacrificed more in our common struggle to end terror. And
we are grateful.
Our shared work of democracy in Afghanistan and Iraq is essential
to the defeat of global terrorism. The spread of freedom and the
hope it brings is the surest way in the long-term to combat despair
and anger and resentment that feeds terror. The advance of freedom
and hope in the greater Middle East will better the lives of millions
of that region, and increase the security of our own people.
I've just come from a meeting with families of British servicemen
who were killed in Iraq. These brave men died for the security
of this country and in the cause of human freedom. Our nations
honor their sacrifice. I pray for the comfort of the families.
Our mission in Iraq is noble and it is necessary. No act of thugs
or killers will change our resolve or alter their fate. A free
Iraq will be free of them. We will finish the job we have begun.
Together, Great Britain and the United States met the defining
challenges of the last century. Together, we're meeting new challenges,
challenges that have come to our generation. In all that lies ahead
in the defense of freedom and the advance of democracy, our two
nations will continue to stand together.
I'm honored to be here, Mr. Prime Minister. I thank you for your
leadership and your friendship.
BLAIR: We'll take three questions from British journalists, three
questions from U.S. journalists. Andy, you start us off.
Q: Could I ask both leaders about the agenda on Iraq? You are
both engaged in an unpredictable and dangerous war, as we've seen
today. And yet, you say you want to bring the troops home starting
from next year. Now, how is that possible when the security situation
is still so unresolved? You haven't got Saddam Hussein. Aren't
you stuck in Iraq with your enemies holding the exit door?
BUSH: I said that we're going to bring our troops home starting
next year? What I said is that we'll match the security needs with
the number of troops necessary to secure Iraq. And we're relying
upon our commanders on the ground to make those decisions.
Q: So you'll keep a certain number of troops in Iraq for a longer
BUSH: We could have less troops in Iraq, we could have the same
number of troops in Iraq, we could have more troops in Iraq --
what is ever necessary to secure Iraq.
BLAIR: Let me make it absolutely clear for our position, as well.
We stay until the job gets done. And what this latest terrorist
outrage shows us is that this is a war, its main battleground is
Iraq. We have got to make sure we defeat these terrorists, the
former Saddam people in Iraq, and we must do that because that
is an essential part of defeating this fanaticism and extremism
that is killing innocent people all over our world today.
And I can assure you of one thing, that when something like this
happens today, our response is not to flinch or give way or concede
one inch. We stand absolutely firm until this job is done -- done
in Iraq, done elsewhere in the world.
BUSH: Andy, if I may have a follow-up to -- it's kind of a new
thing, a follow-up to the answer. One thing that's happening that
you need to know that will help us make the necessary calculations
for troop levels is that there's a lot of Iraqis beginning to be
trained to deal with the issue on the ground. There's Iraqis being
trained for an army; there's Iraqis being trained for an intelligence
service; there's Iraqis being trained for additional police work;
there are Iraqis being trained for asset protection; there are
Iraqis being trained for border guards. There's over 130,000 Iraqis
now who have been trained, who are working for their own security.
So part of the answer to your question is the -- is how fast the
new brigades of Iraqi army are stood up, how effective they are.
We believe that the Iraqi citizens want to be free. We know that
they're willing to work for their own freedom. And the more people
working for their own freedom, the more we can put that into our
calculations as to troop levels.
Thank you for letting me butt in there, again.
Q: For both of you, Mr. President, Mr. Prime Minister, do the
attacks today, do you view them as a direct attack on the alliance?
And does the fact that these attacks are coming sort of with an
increasing intensity and randomness, does that make it less likely
that you'll be able to turn over sovereignty to an Iraqi council
BUSH: Well, first of all, in Iraq we're working on two tracks.
We're working on a political track, and we believe that the timetable
that the Governing Council has set for itself is an accurate timetable.
And we'll work with the Governing Council to turn over sovereignty.
It's their decision. And we agreed with their decision, based
upon the conditions on the ground. And some of those conditions
were the fact that there wasn't the sectarian violence that was
predicted, Iraq remained intact. There wasn't the mass of refugee
flows that had been predicted. There wasn't starvation that had
been predicted. In other words, the conditions on the ground were
such that the Governing Council felt like they could move forward
in a constructive way, and we supported that.
Secondly, look, these terrorist attacks are attacks on freedom.
And they attack when they can. And our job is to secure our homelands,
and chase down these killers and bring them to justice. And we're
making good progress with al Qaeda. And if you were to view al
Qaeda's organization structure as kind of a board of directors,
and then there would be the operating management, we are dismantling
the operating management, one person at a time. We're on an international
That's why relations and cooperation between our intelligence
services are essential to secure the people of our respective countries.
And I will tell you the Prime Minister's cooperation has just been
unbelievably good, as has the intelligence service of Great Britain
-- a fine group of people, by the way, people who are dedicating
their lives to the security of the people of this great country.
And the more we share intelligence with other nations, the more
likely it is that we'll be able to rout out these terrorists.
That's why the phone call I had with Prime Minister Erdogan was
an important phone call, when I assured him we're willing to work
with the Turkish government -- as are the Brits willing to work
with the Turkish government -- to share information and to find
these killers so they don't kill again.
I don't know the nature of the casualties today, but I do know
the nature of the casualties in the recent attack in Istanbul.
More Muslims died in that attack. These are al Qaeda killers killing
Muslims. And they need to be stopped. And we will stop them.
BLAIR: See, here's where we got to -- we've got to see what this
struggle is about, because you can see it clearer and clearer day
by day. This is a struggle between fanaticism and extremism on
the one hand, and people who believe in freedom and in tolerance
on the other. And these attacks have been building for years. They
came to their height, okay, on September the 11th, but that actually
wasn't the first attack that al Qaeda was perpetrating against
America and other countries. And you look round the world today
and I tell you, in virtually every place there is trouble and difficulty,
these terrorists and fanatics are making it worse -- whether it's
Kashmir, whether it's Palestine, whether it's Chechnya, wherever
it is. And they're prepared to kill anyone, they're prepared to
shed any amount of bloodshed, because they know how important this
And here's why Iraq is important in this; because in the end,
their case, which is based on dividing people -- the Arab world
and the Western world, the Muslim world and the Christian world,
and other religions -- their case is that we are in Iraq to suppress
Muslims, steal their oil, to spoil the country. Now, we know, you
know that all those things are lies. They know, therefore, that
if we manage to get Iraq on its feet as a stable, prosperous, democratic
country, the blow we strike is not just one for the Iraqi people,
it is the end of that propaganda. Now, that's why they're fighting
And when you say, is this attack today directed at our alliance?
It's directed at anybody who stands in the way of this fanaticism.
And that's why our response has got to be to say to them, as clearly
as we possibly can, you are not going to defeat us because our
will to defend what we believe in is actually, in the end, stronger,
better, more determined than your will to inflict damage on innocent
And that's what this whole thing is about. That's why when I hear
people talking about the alliance between our two countries, this
is not an alliance based on simply Britain and America and the
ties that go back in history and all the rest of it. This is a
real living alliance about the struggle going on today, in the
early 21st century. And if we don't win this struggle, it's not
just Britain and America that's going to suffer; people everywhere
are going to suffer. And that's why it's important.
If they think that when they go and kill people by these terrorist
attacks, they are going to somehow weaken us, or make us think,
well, let's shuffle to the back of the queue and hide away from
this, they are wrong. That is not the tradition of my country,
and it's not the tradition of the British people or the American
Q: What do you say to those people, both those who support what
your two governments have done since September 11th, and those
who oppose it, that, in fact, the treatment of the captives in
Guantanamo Bay actually belies all your talk of freedom, justice
and tolerance? And on a specific point, in view of the comments
from the [U.S.] Secretary of State and from Charles Kennedy and
Michael Howard, is there on the minority of British nationals held
captive an explicit offer from the United States to repatriate
them? And, if that depends on a request from you, Prime Minister,
are you prepared to make it now?
BLAIR: First of all, let me just deal with the very specific issue
of the British nationals over in Guantanamo Bay. We are in discussion
about this. I've already said in the House of Commons it will be
resolved in one of two ways. Either they will be tried by the military
commission out there; or, alternatively, they'll be brought back
here. Now, we're in discussion at the moment --
Q: How --
BLAIR: It will be resolved at some point or other. It's not going
to be resolved today, but it will be resolved at some point soon.
Let me just say this to you, however, about Guantanamo Bay, indeed,
the people that are there. Again, let's just remember, this arose
out of the battle in Afghanistan, that arose out of September the
11th and the attack there. And the very fact that we are in discussion
about making sure there are fair procedures for trial -- or, alternatively,
it's up to us, as the President very fairly has said, these people
come back here -- is an indication that we actually treat people
differently. So, even though this arose out of this appalling,
brutal attack on America on September the 11th, nonetheless, we
make sure that justice is done for people.
BUSH: These are -- justice is being done. These are illegal, noncombatants,
picked up off of a battlefield. And they are being treated in a
humane fashion. And we are sorting through them on a case-by-case
basis. There is a court procedure in place that will allow them
to be tried in fair fashion. As to the issue of the British citizens,
we're working with the British government.
Q: Mr. President, and Mr. Blair, how accurate would it be to conclude
that the new China trade quotas, along with a weakening dollar,
and your disagreement with the WTO on steel altogether constitute
a reelection strategy of boosting U.S. exports at the expense of
free trade principles?
And, Mr. Blair, I'd like to know how these policies are affecting
Europe and the U.K.
BLAIR: Mr. President, you should answer that one first. (Laughter.)
BUSH: My administration is committed to free trade -- the first
administration in a long time to achieve trade promotion authority
from the Congress. And we're using that to promote free trade agreements
on a bilateral basis, on a hemispheric basis. And we're strongly
advocating a successful round for the -- the Doha round of the
Secondly, free trade agreements require people honoring the agreements.
And there are market disruptions involved with certain Chinese
textiles -- we're addressing those disruptions. And we look forward
to visiting with our Chinese counterparts on this particular matter.
And as I have been saying publicly, that free trade also requires
a level playing field for trade.
In terms of the steel issue, it's an issue that the Prime Minister
has brought up not once, not twice, but three times. It's on his
mind. It's also on my mind. And I'm reviewing the findings about
the restructuring of our steel industry, which is the ITC ruling
basically said that the industry needs some breathing time to restructure.
I'm looking at the findings right now and will make a timely decision.
But I will reiterate, we believe strongly in free trade. We just
want to make sure that free trade is also trade in which all parties
are treated fairly.
BLAIR: Obviously, we've stated opposition. I know the President
is well aware of it, and as you just heard, the administration
will make its decision in the coming period of time.
The other thing I would draw your attention to is the joint belief
in the importance of the WTO doing well and getting the deadlock
there was at Cancun resolved. That's immensely important.
And never forget, incidentally, I said this in the House of Commons
yesterday, whatever the disagreements on trade between Europe and
America -- and ever since I've been Prime Minister there have been
such disagreements on particular issues -- trade between Europe
and America is vast. In fact, I think it is right to say it has
doubled since 1989. It amounts to a huge amount of money and jobs
both ways every single year. So that's not to say we don't have
to resolve these issues, and I hope we can resolve them and soon,
but I don't think we should forget the bigger picture, either.
Q: What do you say to people who today conclude that British people
have died and been maimed as a result of you appearing here today,
shoulder-to-shoulder with a controversial American President?
And, Mr. President, if I could ask you, with thousands on the
street -- with thousands marching on the streets today here in
London, a free nation, what is your conclusion as to why apparently
so many free citizens fear you and even hate you?
BUSH: I'd say freedom is beautiful. It's a fantastic thing to
come to a country where people are able to express their views.
Q: Why do they hate you, Mr. President? Why do they hate you in
BUSH: I don't know that they do. All I know is that it's -- that
people in Baghdad, for example, weren't allowed to do this up until
recent history. They're not spending a lot of time in North Korea
protesting the current leadership. Freedom is a wonderful thing,
and I respect that. I fully understand people don't agree with
war. But I hope they agree with peace and freedom and liberty.
I hope they care deeply about the fact that when we find suffering
and torture and mass graves, we weep for the citizens that are
being brutalized by tyrants.
And, finally, the Prime Minister and I have a solemn duty to protect
our people. And that's exactly what I intend to do as the President
of the United States, protect the people of my country.
BLAIR: To answer your first question and your other, indeed, people
have the right to protest and to demonstrate in our countries,
and I think that's part of our democracy. And all I say to people
is -- and this is the importance, I think, of the speech the President
made yesterday -- listen to our case, as well. I mean, we listen
-- that's what a democratic exchange should be about -- but listen
to the case that we are making.
Because there is something truly bizarre about a situation where
we have driven the Taliban out of government in Afghanistan who
used to stop women going about the street as they wished, who used
to prevent girls going to school, who brutalized and terrorized
their population; there's something bizarre about having got rid
of Saddam in Iraq from the government of Iraq, when we've already
discovered just so far the remains of 400,000 people in mass graves
-- there is something bizarre about these situations happening,
and people saying that they disagree, when the effect of us not
doing this would be that the Taliban was still in Afghanistan and
Saddam was still in charge of Iraq. And I think people have got
to accept that that is the consequence of the position therein.
Now, as for your first point, just let me say this. What has caused
the terrorist attack today in Turkey is not the President of the
United States, is not the alliance between America and Britain.
What is responsible for that terrorist attack is terrorism, are
the terrorists. And our response has got to be to unify in that
situation, to put the responsibility squarely on those who are
killing and murdering innocent people, and to say, we are going
to defeat you, and we're not going to back down or flinch at all
from this struggle. For all the reasons I've given you earlier,
this is what this struggle is about.
And when you look -- as you can see from the list of the people
from 60 different nationalities who have died in terrorist attacks,
and thousands of people from every religion, every part of the
world, you aren't going to stop these people by trying to compromise
with them, by hesitating in the face of this menace. It's defeat
them, or be defeated by them. That's what we're going to do.
Q: Thank you, Mr. President, Mr. Prime Minister. Mr. President,
when you talk about peace in the Middle East, you've often said
that freedom is granted by the Almighty. Some people who share
your beliefs don't believe that Muslims worship the same Almighty.
I wonder about your views on that.
And, Mr. Prime Minister, as a man also of faith, I'd like to get
your reaction to that.
BUSH: I do say that freedom is the Almighty's gift to every person.
I also condition it by saying freedom is not America's gift to
the world. It's much greater than that, of course. And I believe
we worship the same God.
BLAIR: And I believe that if people are given the chance to have
freedom, whatever part of the world they're in, whatever religion
they practice, whatever faith they have, if they're given the chance
to have freedom, they welcome it. And I think it is the most appalling
delusion that actually affects some people even within our own
societies that somehow, though we in our countries love freedom
and would defend freedom; somehow other people in other parts of
the world don't like it.
And the reason why they like freedom is because then, if you've
got freedom and democracy, and the rule of law, you can raise your
family, you can earn a decent standard of living, you can go about
your daily business without fear of the secret police or terrorism.
And in those types of societies, the terrorists who thrive on hatred
and fanaticism, they get no breathing ground, they get no breathing
And the really important thing -- and I just wanted to say this
about the President's speech yesterday, because I hope -- people
sometimes say to me, well, you've got a Republican President, a
center-left government here in Britain, how can you two guys work
together? On this issue, I believe people from whatever side of
the political spectrum they're on can respond to the call that
in the end, the best security we can have is not just through our
armed forces and intelligence services, magnificent though they
are, but actually through our values, through the spread of those
values of freedom and justice and tolerance throughout the world.
And the case the President made yesterday I think is a really
powerful call, not just to people in our own countries, but to
people right throughout the world, that these are basic human values.
They're not the -- in the ownership exclusively of America or Britain
or the West or any particular religion, they're human values. And
actually, every time you give people the chance to have those values,
they opt for them. Of course they do, because they're the values
that sustain the human spirit.